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Journal Entry: Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:01 AM

Techniques...
:bulletgreen: I'm wondering what kind of technique are people using while they draw traditional and digital media... for example: If they draw traditional on the same way as digital (painting, coloring, shading...)...or opposite. Because for me digital and traditional are the same. It was always annoying when teachers in school told me that digital is much easier than traditional...that in digital you just press once with the brush and you already have whole image. Hahaha... that's noooooooot true at all :D I spend more time drawing digital works than traditional... ;P Then I always say to people like that...Try and see for yourself if it's easier than traditional :giggle:

:bulletgreen: Well, what I want to say...and ask. Last years I drew more digital drawings than traditional, so when I started to paint canvas, I drew on the same way as if it would be digital painting...only that I had one layer ;P If you saw my digital tutorials... at first I did basic colors, then I started to draw shadows and highlights...and so on. Exactly the same as digital. :la:

:bulletgreen: Cuz I drew digital so much my brain changed, so when I draw traditional I always think what would I do if this drawing would be digital... and this technique works for me :la: I want to know if I'm only person like that, or you help yourself with other techniques which you learned too. :D

:bulletgreen: People always ask me how I do my digital and traditional work... probably if I would do a tutorial for both stuff, they would be completely the same (only that I wouldn't mention layers anywhere). :lmao:

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Mutsumipat Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012   Digital Artist
I totally agree with you ! I draw traditionally and digitally, and these technics are very similar. The point is, right now, I can paint traditionally ! Of course, I'm not a master on traditionnal canvas, but I'm not afraid anymore to paint on that surface.

And, I can make an original art easier, because of the digital art. So, NO, digital painting is NOT easier than traditional painting.
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Professional General Artist
OMG...you're totally the same as me :omg: :la: Even with the
traditional art. Before I was always afraid to draw on canvas,
because I never know if look OK...or if I'll know to paint it
at all. But cuz of digital art I made up concepts and composition
a lot easier...and I'm not afraid to use paints any more :la:
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Mutsumipat Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012   Digital Artist
Digital painting is THE CURE !!! XD
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hahaha...YEA :iconlaplz:
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YOGISHA Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012
featureありがとう。Thank you!
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Professional General Artist
It's totally my pleasure :huggle:
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XLEHX Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student General Artist
I have such a hard time doing digital...but that's probably because I'm just starting, though I look at digital and painting the same way, since you have to work up to your layers...well, I do ^^;

I have to get better...in digital ._____. :cry:
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea...beginnings at digital are always hard. But when you paint more
and more, then it'll become easier. :D
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XLEHX Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Student General Artist
Yeah....hopefully T.T *nods*
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Cynthia-Blair Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
When starting a traditional painting many artists paint the entire artwork in monotone, then paint in color on top of that.
Basic principles are the same, but paint is very different from pixels, some effects are very hard to achieve in traditional (perfect gradients and glows, for example, or certain effects like painting with light add + for secular bloom) are terribly hard in traditional. The color gamut is also very different.
I find the depth and variety of physical paint bush strokes hard to reproduce in digital, also the randomness that is characteristic of traditional art. I can't remember ever mistaking one for the other. But I think they complement each other beautifully :D

If there's one thing I miss when doing traditional work, it's the "Undo" :XD:
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea :nod: Some people get perfect gradient with air brushes (but that's really
expensive). In digital art Corel Painter tries to copy traditional art and
brushes (much different than Photoshop), but I don't use it that much :D

Hahaha...yea :giggle: I don't use undo in digital art that much, but there
are few days when I want that in traditional art ;P
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Cynthia-Blair Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I have an airbrush (of the traditional kind) and it's not so easy to learn and control :( Lots of prep involved...masking off areas with frisket or liquid mask. Believe me, Photoshop is the way to airbrush ;)
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hehehe...:D
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NueNagi Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012   Writer
I find traditional (pencil) easier than digital, mainly because I'm used to using it. It took a while for me to get used to my graphic pad and the hand-eye coordination necessary in order to draw properly onto the screen. It is nicer to have layers and an undo button, however, and lacking the smudging from either my hand or a bad eraser. And, with digital, you can zoom in and add tiny details that you mightn't be able to do with traditional media. I think, so long as I'm drawing I'm improving, so I don't really have a favourite either.
When I do tradtional (pencil), I gradually build shades until it works (which, for me, makes it easier to get the right tone and blend), whereas with digital I start with the darker shades and add lighter, and my traditional technique doesn't really work for digital. Other than those things, my techniques are probably the same. I'm more willing to use colour on digital too, which I avoid in pencil.
Painting though (haven't done that in a while XD), for me was probably similar to digital - start off with my lineart and colour, starting with the darker colours, and build on top of the original like I might with digital.
probably not the best person to respond though, seeing how my skil level's still pretty low
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Aha...hahaha, yea. Beginnings are always hard in digital art...for me too. Especially
cuz I always looked my hand and tablet...not the screen. :giggle:

When I draw drawings (mostly pencils) I use traditional technique (cuz I can't
use other ;P), but for paintings (oils) I use digital technique too :la:
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Topicality Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
I like the techniques Matt uses on this site [link]
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea...I use the same brushes and I paint pretty similar (only that I draw linearts
and I draw more details...cuz I zoom my drawing too much ;P) :la:
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Topicality Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
:lol:
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dreamarian Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
I think I develop a style for every medium.
I am mainly a pencil artist and I have a very set style but I've started experimenting digitally. You can't really compare the two. I tried doing the digital work the same way I draw traditionally but it's not quite the look I'm going for. I'm still finding my own digital look.
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea... pencils are much different than digital art (so when I draw with
pencils I use trad. technique). But paintings are much more similar...
at least for me. For oils I use my digital technique :D
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Opal-Agito Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Student General Artist
Wow, lots of messages eh? If I'd ever face that, I'd just say 'keep calm and carry on'!
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hahaha...yea. :nod: I always have full inbox. That's the first time that I checked it all in one day :giggle:
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tshuki Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm the same then, I paint traditionally the same way as digitally,although, when I work with oil I sometimes skip the bases part and do lights and shades straight away. :3
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hahaha...yay :iconlaplz: Yea, sometimes I skip some parts too, if I think that it's
gonna be easier and faster...I do that in digital art too ;P
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IjiRyushippo Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Student General Artist
i go for ctrl-z allot after working on the computer allot. but if i've been doing traditional i go for the rubber...
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hahaha...then you're like me with traditional...only that I don't use ctrl+z,
I rather use eraser ;P :la:
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IjiRyushippo Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student General Artist
yeah i agree
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x-Ren-x Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
A tutorial (maybe with timelapse video) would be quite interesting!
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea, I thought about that too. But I don't have any program which would record
what I do on the screen. :D
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x-Ren-x Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
I am totally not being pushy, not in the least...

[link] I used this one in the past - you virtually don't even need to read instructions or anything, 'cause it's very easy to use. Even if you decide you don't want to do a video tutorial, it's still a fairly useful bit of software to know about. :)
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks a lot for that :huggle:
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pixiekat Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I draw digitally the exact same way I draw traditionally -- by working from light to dark and using very low opacities to slowly build up shading. :meow:

In some ways, drawing digitally is easier for me because I can use layers and the undo button. In other ways, it's a lot harder because I'm not used to using a tablet yet. =P Also, digital art takes me a lot longer than traditional art.
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hahaha...yea, at the beginnings are always problems with the tablet ;P
I drew like that at the beginning too. Now I changed my style a bit.
Yea, I draw digital much longer than traditional too...ah that's cuz of
zoom and I draw only details then ;P :D
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afercanqueen Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Student Writer
how do you draw you digital work and what do you use to get them like that?
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
You can check my tutorial here how I draw my digital drawings. Mostly I draw at the
beginning with black and white, and at the end I color the drawing. I use basic
brushes in Photoshop (Soft Round Pressure Opacity, and Hard Round Pressure Opacity
brush). I change even the Flow and Opacity all the time (more about that I explained
in tutorial). I paint middle colors first, then I start to add lights and shadows (if I would
draw darkest colors first then I would need to repaint whole painting more times, if
I would like to get light color...the same is if you start to paint with lightest). I hope that
this helped you :D :hug:
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afercanqueen Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student Writer
ohh thank you soo much.. so now all i really need now is Photoshop and a drawing pad? ok so thats good
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Professional General Artist
My pleasure...:heart: Hahaha, yea :nod: Even if you can't have
Photoshop, you can use some great free programs like
Paint Tool SAI :la:
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afercanqueen Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Student Writer
ok thanks for all the help
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Professional General Artist
You're welcome :aww:
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Cetriya Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
for the most part, its similar, when I learn something traditionally I can better translate it to digital and vis versa. Only real difference is remembering the different properties of different materials.

What makes digital 'easier' is the supply side. You don't have to worry about prepping the canvas, getting the right paper, the right brushes, the right paint, the right mixture and consistency of the paint, not worrying about drying time, or having to 're wet' the canvas to finish and then storage.

But I do find traditional faster because I don't get so zoomed in the picture and you can get the right balance of the composition easier. I totally hate oil paints, way to expensive, but if I want to bang out a project quick? I use inks and watercolor, not digital.
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea...:nod: Hahaha...I never check the paper, brushes, canvas... before I start to draw. I grab the first thing which I have... I try to buy fine papers and canvases, so I can draw more detailed.

Hahaha...yea. That's familiar... I always zoom so much, then I can't stop drawing details. Now I rather check drawing from big distance and if it seems detailed, then I don't draw details ;P Yea, oils are expensive, but they are the best traditional medium for me. It's really similar to digital art :D
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sognodrago Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
well, one thing I learn about art, is that no matter the media, somethings never change
the lighting where you should check, the shading outcome, the anatomy, then positioning
then with these knowledge, you learn to apply techniques, which are mostly, tweaking a bit here and there, then you will be doing just the same thing
pretty much???
but yeah, I pretty much got same technique(somehow:iconddl0-0huh:)
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea...that'll never change :D It only changes how will you color, shade... these things with different mediums (in trad. if you have transparent colors then you have to start differently...for example watercolors. If you have oils, then you can paint like digitally...at least me) :la:
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houoh Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I think 'easier' isn't the right word to using digital methods, but rather 'accessible' and 'convenient'. I can see why a lot of people tend to think that using digital medium is easy, since you have so many tools at your disposal to create a visual technique that would otherwise take more steps if it were done traditionally. There is very little room for error too using traditional medium, as opposed to the tools like layers and undo features of digital.

As far as techniques/styles for either mediums go, they contrast. I only use pencils traditionally, for my linearts mostly, and paint digitally.
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
EXACTLY :la: Yea, I don't know why people keep saying me that digital is easier. When I told them to try (I gave them my tablet), then they changed their mind ;P I don't use undo (I rather use eraser), and I use layers to feel more "safe" (just because of mistakes and experiments which I do on layers (but if I really want I can do a painting without layers...but I almost never did that, so I mostly paint oil paintings...cuz for me is the most similar to digital art ;P).
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vtas Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
I feel similar about digital and traditional. I moved to digital after doing traditional but I haven't moved back yet, so things might have changed! I feel that after moving to digital, digital was quite a bit harder, especially with mixing colors and stuff. I did use traditional techniques for digital painting, but I also had to learn new techniques for Photoshop. I haven't gone back to traditional stuff in 3 years, so I will see in the future if I can apply Photoshop skills to traditional stuff, haha.
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hahaha... :D Yea, me too. When I started digital I didn't know to use tablet at all...I always looked down on tablet, and because I knew only traditional then, I used traditional technique. But when I learned more about Photoshop and easier techniques I decided to try them in traditional medium. And it worked for me... especially with oil paints. Try to draw one traditional drawing, so you'll see :la:
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Lothiriell Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Before starting digital I didn't even like to use colors at any traditional way. Is like the sketch looks awesome, but if I add colors I just ruin the whole piece, that's one of the reasons I started digital xD
Then I started to develop a better technique for traditional, it's almost the same as digital. Except for pastels, but I dont usually try it xD
I thought I was the only one who keeps imagining how you would do if it was digitally while painting traditionally xD
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tincek-marincek Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hahaha...me too :la: You're not alone :iconlaplz:
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Lunar-Graphite Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Welp, I had some issues in art school because I think like a digital painter and apply traditional paints like I do while painting digitally. layer by layer and without mixing paints on the cavas. Only solid shadows and lines.
this was the moment when i understood that digital and traditional art are different. After a short while I realized how traditional paint works, and started using traditional techniques while painting digitally....which completely changed my style. To the better side.
Now when I feel stuck in the same style and mistakes (digitally) I switch media to traditional and usually learn something new....So i think I use mixed techniques :la:
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